FAN: A lot of crap has happened through the seasons, and I’m wondering how you think it’s going to be good that no one is coping.
POSEY: No one’s coping? That’s what’s going on?
EADDY: Can you explain that a little bit more? What do you mean by that?
FAN: Say, if someone dies, you need to cope. To get better. To mourn! No one’s mourning in the show!
POSEY: It’s definitely still there, it’s in everyone’s lives, it always is. But there’s, literally, we can’t— we have to prevent other things from always happening. So it kind of builds and builds and sits there in the back of their head, but it’s always there.
EADDY: I’ve had a lot of people ask that on tumblr, too, or I’ve read a lot of that on tumblr, and let me say— this is war.
@Eyecon Teen Wolf (6.15.14)
The only problem I have with this is that… It’s not really true. Not always. I mean, this is war when they want to avoid writing about mourning, PTSD, consequences of demonic possession, consequences of consent issues, and everything like this. But then you have stupid scenes where the True Alpha is jealous of a fucking kid who seems to be better than him at lacrosse, and if Scott has time to be a teenager with Liam and lacrosse, why should I give the show a pass for not showing him being a teenager dealing with the fact that his first love died partially because of him? (And I’m not saying Scott is guilty, I’m saying that imo Scott would blame himself.) I mean, I get what they are doing, because they want to give something light and funny to the audience too, but the overall effect is horrifying. Losing a lacrosse match seems worse than losing a friend. Breaking up with someone seems worse than losing her to death. Their emotive reactions are so messed up you have to actively headcanon them in order to feel some empathy. And like, you get to the point where nothing matters. Allison’s death has really been a turning point, at least for me, and the only reason I’m not really disappointed by the way the show failed to acknowledge it is that my expectations are already so low it’s almost funny.
OMG, yes to all of this.
It can’t be war just so you don’t have to address basic emotional responses but you can spend entire chucks of episodes on lacrosse games.
If Scott and Stiles have time to play lacrosse and Scott has time to set up a romantic date for him and Kira, then war? Really?
Plus, these are 16 year old kids. Not trained soldiers. The idea that they should be able to detach themselves in the same way, say, Chris Argent, who has had years of experience can, is ridiculous.
Soldiers are trained to deal with this kind of shit (and they still have to have down time, even in war, so they can deal with all the shit they are experiencing) and even then, there’s no guarantee that they’ll be able to cope once they are actually in that situation.
That I’m supposed to believe that a bunch of 16 yr old kids could cope with the continual onslaught of shit they’ve dealt with over four seasons without any kind of reaction is a joke. It’s an excuse so they the writers don’t actually have to write them having inconvenient emotional reactions, when all they want to concentrate on is the superficial flash of the show.
If Buffy the Vampire Slayer can have Buffy go fucking catatonic mere days or hours before she has to face a god and stop her destroying the world, if Arrow can have Oliver just break after his mom is murdered in front of him and is sister and just disappear while Slade is hunting down everyone else he cares about, I think Teen Wolf can take away the pointless lacrosse scenes and give their characters a bit of time to deal with the weight of everything that they’ve been through.
You can’t tell me ‘it’s war’ is a valid excuse when I’ve seen plenty of other shows manage it admirably.
You can’t tell me ‘it’s war’ and then show me them playing lacrosse, going on dates, doing homework etc.
If it’s war, they don’t have time for that shit.
'It's war' it just a really crappy excuse put out there to explain away really bad writing.
Though, having said that, if someone wants to make the show that Eaddy is describing, that’d be awesome because it sounds pretty cool. It’s, unfortunately, not the show we’re seeing.
Because a) If Scott is a general, i’ll eat my hat. To be a general you have to take responsibility for you people and you have to actually make split-second decisions. Scott, so far, as been really lucky in that he’s had other people around to do both those things.
(If JD needs a template for that, though, may I suggest S1-7 of Buffy, but paying particular attention to S5 and S7)
Yup. Teen Wolf wants so bad to have their cake and eat it too. They want the dramatic impact of unrelenting angst, but they also want the laugh track of light and off the wall humor. Problem is, where Buffy fit the humor INTO natural breaks in the angst, Teen Wolf just likes to call time out and segue straight from Apocalypse Now into a scene from The Breakfast Club. And more importantly, Teen Wolf as a show is utterly tone deaf. They pick the most unfortunate moments to build their comedic moments around, and the tone they aim for in those moments does not at all match the tone dictated by the characters and plot. Like the immediate aftermath of Scott biting Liam. The show tried SO hard to make that funny, and it just made everything TERRIBLE because there’s nothing humorous about that situation, and trying to force it to be just devalued everything about it. The show needs to learn that you can’t expect viewers to treat some moments with the appropriate gravitas and then turn around and laugh at others when the show itself can’t even tell which moments should be which.